Aliens, Angels, & Spirits with Celebrity Psychic Medium Vincent Genna

Join me, Shalman Isis, as I discuss aliens, angels, spirit guides, ghosts, and psychic phenomena with celebrity psychic medium Vincent Jenna. Come for the laughs, and stay for the enlightening conversation with this hilarious and dynamic spiritual teacher! 

Imagine sensing an illness in a stranger before any symptoms appear. This isn't just a party trick—it's a profound responsibility. Vincent Jenna, our esteemed guest and psychic therapist, shares his personal story of discovering his psychic gifts at 28, merging them with his expertise in psychology and clinical social work. Together, we explore the notion that everyone possesses inherent intuition and how this can be cultivated to unlock more profound psychic potential. 

Embark on a spellbinding journey into the realms of extraterrestrial life and human evolution as we question the hidden truths of our origins. From the influence of shamanism and spirit animal sessions to the evolutionary aid from alien counterparts, this episode promises a fascinating exploration of our cosmic connections and spiritual growth. Inspired by transformative experiences, I share insights from my book, "The Secret That's Holding You Back," offering listeners guidance on aligning with their soul's path and manifesting their true potential. This episode invites us to explore the mysteries of psychic phenomena and embrace the spiritual evolution that awaits us all.

About Vincent Genna:
For almost four decades, Vincent has helped thousands of people worldwide h

Spiritual guru, two-time #1 best-selling author, and higher consciousness advocate Shaman Isis (aka Cynthia L. Elliott) is on a mission to turn the tide of the mental and spiritual health crisis with mindfulness practices, incredible events, powerful content, and motivational storytelling that inspire your heroes journey! Learn more about her books, courses, speaking engagements, book signings, and appearances at ShamanIsis.com.

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Ready for a life transformation? Ready to bring your dreams to life? Then you will want Glowup With Shaman Isis: The Collection of inspiring books and courses filled with life lessons and practices that raise your vibration and consciousness. 

Chapters

• 0:57 Exploring Psychic Abilities and Intuition
• 15:06 Navigating Psychic and Intuitive Insights
• 18:34 Embracing Compassion in Spiritual Insights
• 25:08 Unlocking Spiritual Power
• 31:25 Exploring Psychic Potential and Self-Discovery
• 35:00 Spirit and Animal Communication
• 43:45 Alien Origins and Human Evolution

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:57

Hi and welcome to Citizen Journalist. I'm your host, Shalman Isis, also known as Cynthia Elliott to my friends and family, and today we've got a rather fascinating episode. I have a friend and Vincent you're going to have to tell your titles because you've got several. I have Vincent Jenna, who's absolutely fascinating, on the show today. We're going to be talking about the paranormal UFOs and spirits and all sorts of fascinating things.

Speaker 2: 1:21

hi, vincent it's good to see you. Hello, cynthia, it's great to see you. Thank you for inviting me here. This is wonderful. Yeah, yeah, about my title. I what's that? No, about my title. I know people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know I understand that. But but I have to be able to explain to people what I do so that they know Right, like who is this guy? You know that comes along from New York Italian guy is like who the heck is him? So so I explain it that, yes, I'm a psychic therapist, and the reason why I say therapist is because when people read my bio, I actually went back to school after becoming psychic to get my BA in psychology and my master's in clinical social work. So I'm a psychotherapist as well. So I combine that too. Plus, I talk with dead people. That's the mediumship.

Speaker 2: 2:14

Oh, we're gonna dig into that I have my hands Dead people and ghosts. Well, anybody who's dead. Anybody who's dead, I talk with them, okay. And then a spiritual teacher. Yes, I have been for 40 years. I've been researching all sorts of religion, spirituality. I even minored in it. So I got a minor in religion. And it's not just about religion, it's about how we define ourselves here on this planet as being. That's what spirituality is about, right? And then, author of the bestselling book the Secret that's Holding you Back, I got to make sure I let everybody know about my book there, of course, that's my title. I can throw in a whole bunch of other things that I did too, but I don't want to confuse everybody.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Well, you know, when you I try to tell people this because they're like well, you put a lot in and in you have several titles I'm like I'm old, yeah, in the best possible way it's like fine wine.

Speaker 2: 3:09

Oh, of course it's spicy, yes, and I'm older. I'm old now too. See, I like to say older, yeah, all the time. And my daughter, dad, you're old, face it. And I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait. When I was a kid and I saw old people, they would be 80 year olds and the 90 year olds with the walkers, you know when the, and the roller carts where they sit down and they're rolling around with it. Right, that to me was old, yeah. So here I am 69, I'm approaching old, but I like to feel that I'm older yeah, no, I agree with you.

Speaker 1: 3:49

I I have more fun at this point in my life than I did for like 20 years and frankly, I look at gen z and I think half of them are are acting like they're 80 oh, they absolutely are.

Speaker 2: 4:00

I feel younger than the younger people.

Speaker 1: 4:02

Yeah, yeah well, I love your frankness about that whole conversation. As a shaman, I'm very, um very in touch with quite a few um of the things that you touched on. There's some of them, though, and I like to be really transparent with people, because I'm not here to to, uh, pretend to be anything, um, that I'm not, I I. There's a few areas that you and I've touched on off camera where I was like that that thing hasn't I don't necessarily believe in or agree with, but I'm very open-minded. I would love for you to quickly share the you mentioned that you became now, I believe everybody's naturally psychic.

Speaker 1: 4:37

I think psychic is a term that's been really slayed on purpose to prevent people from understanding that energy is this incredible thing that we can all tap into and that knowing what's about to happen is really about energy. But you mentioned that you became psychic and I take that to mean you had an experience that brought it out.

Speaker 2: 4:57

Well, here's the thing we're all intuitive, that's the word people. The thing we're all intuitive, that's the word people love we're all intuitive beings.

Speaker 2: 5:03

we would not have survived over 11 000 years if we weren't intuitive, right, isn't like in the beginning way? In the beginning, when we asked, how do people know to do that? It's because there was an intuition. Carl jung actually coined it as um, a super conscious mind that we have, the unconscious mind is super conscious, and that we're connected to a universal consciousness, a knowing. So we're all intuitive in that way. To become psychic, then in our realm we define it as intuition that has been more advanced or focused on to develop.

Speaker 2: 5:41

So what happened to me is I was very intuitive as a child. As a matter of fact, when I was growing up, my uncle labeled me the little professor because I would always interject an adult conversation since I was five years old, and what would piss them off is that I wouldn't say anything stupid as a five-year-old, I would say something that was reasonable and they didn't want me around. Go away, you're a kid. My mother smacked me in the head because she was always embarrassed about that, but my uncle appreciated it, my relatives appreciated it, right. So that was a high intuition as a child. But then, when this happened to me at 28 years old, all of a sudden it became stronger and so it left the level of intuition and it went to the level that we now know since the new age movement as psychic.

Speaker 2: 6:30

And that term was only coined after the advent of psychology and psychiatry because they labeled the inner mind as the psyche, the psyche, your inner mind is your psyche. Remember psyche? Also psychology is the study of the psyche. So now when we say psychic, that's a term that was we used from psychology to let people know that a psychic goes in deep into your mind, into your connection, into your information and Akashic records, whatever you want to call it in that collective unconscious mind. So the term psychic just got a bad label because immediately you conjured this vision of a crystal ball. I don't have a crystal ball.

Speaker 1: 7:19

Well know the 80s, 80s, uh cable television and I think it was a combination of 80s cable tv and the cia that just crapped all over the works.

Speaker 2: 7:28

Oh it totally, totally did, or, or, or, better yet, the palm, you know, the hand that the, the and and, and. That's a hamster. Actually it was a symbol of old Tibetan and Hebrew religion. It's the hand that's supposed to be the hand of God, but we would see it on a highway, a hand, and it would say Sister Sarah. And everybody would go oh yeah, I'm going to stop off there and go to Sister Sarah. And so when I became psychic, I was like I don't want to be a psychic, what am I supposed to do? Put a hand up there? Oh, for me, I would put cousin instead of brother, cousin Vinny, you know, cousin Vinny Readings my cousin. Hey, yo, yeah, you know you got troubles, I know you got trouble. That's what people would know. I wasn't getting into that. So I just eliminated the name psychic when I first started and I was a, a transpersonal counselor, oh wow you have to invent titles because you're like I'm not using the other one, I'm not using the other one.

Speaker 2: 8:28

Those were all loonies from california. I didn't want to be classified as that, but that's. That's the only thing that happened with the psychic. So psychic and intuition is the exact same thing. However, a psychic supposedly studied more in order to advance their intuition. So that's what I've done, okay, yeah, no, I love that.

Speaker 1: 8:50

I've had a lot. I mean, I'm a psychic. I don't use the term very often, but I've been psychic since well, I think we all are. I'll repeat that because I think if people were really paying attention, they would see the truth. Yes, if they're willing to accept it too.

Speaker 1: 9:06

But, um, I've had psychic experiences my entire life and some of them really just really profound and wild. Uh, like on the day of 9-11, um, uh, being, yeah, I was in the city and, uh, the world trade center was my client at the time and I I didn't go that morning because I, for some reason, my intuition told me not to. And then, before it happened, I was getting visions. I wrote about it in my book, memory Mansion, because I felt it was. I needed to get it off my chest because I had never told anybody, because I didn't want them to think I was crazy. But those prophetic visions, um, really freaked me out that morning. It took me a really like. It took me decades to actually address that and deal with it and really confront it. But, uh, I have a lot of respect for people who tap into their intuitive side and use their psychic abilities. Um, do you have any particular experiences that come to mind in your psychic wonderings, if you will.

Speaker 2: 10:05

In my psychic journey. I actually have more in my mediumship journey, but in my psychic journey it's always fascinated me when I did get into people's lives, when they would call me up, only when they would call me up. I never had an experience like you did and as many people who have those experiences and here's what I say about those. It's really hard, because what you probably were dealing with is the fact of some kind of knowing that a disaster was going to happen and not being able to do a damn thing about it.

Speaker 2: 10:40

That's what people suffer, okay, okay. So here's what I did. The soon as I started accepting my psychic ability, I had a conversation with the entire universe. Okay, whether, however far that extends. I sat there and I said listen, as a psychic, I want to be able to use this tool to help people. Therefore, if there is anything that's going to happen that is not going to be able to help people, or I'm not going to be able to help people, I do not want to see. If a person is supposed to die tomorrow that I'm on the phone with and they can't do anything about it, don't show it to me, because there's no sense in me getting that information tormenting me. And what am I supposed to do? Tell somebody oh, by the way, you're going to get into a car accident tomorrow and die, and you can't do anything about it. What do they do? That ruins their entire day before the accident, right, but I will see disasters if they can be avoided. So, for example and I had this I had a vision. Well, so I have a couple of profound visions that way, but they were always to help.

Speaker 2: 11:55

I had this vision with a client on the phone that they were going to a party, drinking a lot, getting in the car, getting into an accident and killing a family in this vehicle. Okay, and I told them listen to me. You're going to a party tonight, aren't you? Yes, how did you know that? I'm psychic idiot. What do you think I'm on the phone with you for? So, yes, you're going to be doing a lot of drinking. I'm telling you right now leave your car at home, because if you don't, you will be getting into an accident and you will be OK, but you will be killing an entire family. Oh, my God, are you kidding me? So it's enough kind of a shock to them that they'll listen. Ok, well, even if that, you know, is a possibility, I'm not going to chance that. Right, and I've told that to so many people now. Now, others I've told oh, you're, you're bicycling. You bicycle with your family, don't you? I actually saw them all, the whole family, going and taking a path. I said when you're on the bicycle, please do not look back at them, because I see you hitting a tree as soon as you look back and you're breaking your arm. Okay, three months later, she came to me again with a cast on her arm. She said I didn't listen to you and I looked back to see where my family was and I smacked right into a tree and I broke my arm. Just like you said, I've told people that. I've told people that they were going to get women, that they were going to get pregnant and supposedly they had tubal ligations and they still got pregnant. So it was.

Speaker 2: 13:35

There was a lot of things that I saw that people could avoid, right or not avoid. I was at an event and it's so funny when you, when I do a group event and I'm doing readings for people, random readings that that I'm getting information from right. I get all different responses from the observers, from the rest right. So I went to this one woman, I looked at her and I, dead on, said if you do not take care of yourself in six months, you're going to die. And you heard from the audience members, from audience members right. One member even wrote a review to the people that I did the event at and said oh, I didn't appreciate that he spoke to that woman like that, right, but she had no idea. Nobody had any idea what this woman needed to hear. So I told her.

Speaker 2: 14:23

I said, yes, you have diabetes, don't you? And you have stage four diabetes and you are not doing anything. You're not testing your blood, you're not, you're just acting as if nothing is wrong and that is going to kill you in six months. I promise you that if you don't change, but you can change. And six months, I promise you that if you don't change, but you can change. And what I'm seeing is that you make that difference and you're going to heal that diabetes.

Speaker 2: 14:48

Well, afterwards, she was in tears. Her and her husband came to me and she said to me nobody put it to me that way, nobody ever said that to me like that. And you just shook me by the shoulders. And I am going to. I promise you I'm going to take care of myself. And she was. Her husband was thanking me and she was thanking me, but of course, the rest of the audience members didn't see that. So, yes, I get visions. I'm. That's why I'm called the. Tell it like it is psychic, because if I have to, show me that actually fits you so well.

Speaker 2: 15:15

I know it's. It's like how do you want me to handle you? I always tell people this is you and I are walking down the streets of Manhattan, right? And we're having a deep conversation and you're chatting, chatting, chatting. And I look up and I see that somebody is hauling a piano from the 40th floor up to the 50th floor and all of a sudden the rope breaks and that piano is headed right towards us.

Speaker 2: 15:44

So I have one of three choices. I can run to the other side of the street, leave you there and say hey, sucker, that's your karma, not mine, right, like some people think. Hey, you know, that's not my karma, right? Or there's another way in this industry and this field that you really are not supposed to interject. So I can tap you on the shoulder. I said listen, I'm so sorry. I do not mean to try to influence you or manipulate you at all, but there is a smack before I can even get the sentence out. We're both dead right. Or I can take you by the shoulders and throw you out of the way and I jump out of the way with you. Now, you might break an arm, you might twist your ankle as I do that, but I saved your life. Now, how would you like me to deal with you tonight?

Speaker 1: 16:33

Wow, that's funny. You know, I had this conversation with myself a few years ago because I've had enough psychic experiences. I've been able to read auras and know people's truth, like in it's, it's a, it's a burden in a way, uh, and and that's not. I know that sounds like, oh look, I'm so talented and it's actually not the way it's. I mean, it's not been fun. It's not fun when you meet people and you see their dark and their light and you know what they're capable of, because it makes it difficult to put yourself in the energy when you have already seen what people are capable of doing, especially when you have already seen what people are capable of doing, especially when you have compassion.

Speaker 1: 17:21

Oh yeah, oh yeah, and you know, you see. So, like I had an experience recently that just reminded me of this, I stayed at an Airbnb during writing Memory Mansion and I met a woman, got to know her really well. We went out and hung out a few times and she was delightful, just a delightful woman, and I knew the minute that I I had got reintroduced to her. I had met her briefly years before and I I knew that she was very sick. I didn't know what it was, but I knew that she was going to be gone in a year. I remember thinking it's going to be a year, and I I tried to have that conversation with her, her husband and her best friend, because I had that conversation with them very subtly as I could, like she's got to pay attention to her health and that's how I found out that she had a pacemaker and, long story short, I then they were they needed to replace the pacemaker and when I heard that from her, I said as nicely as I could look, I know doctors feel like they have to tell you to get surgeries when you're not necessarily, you know, because it's an insurance for them it's an insurance thing, like they have to tell you what they think you should do, even if they think there's a risk that you might not be able to make it through it, like that's the kind of catch 22. And I said you like that's the kind of catch 22 and I said you know, just make sure that you're in the, because I think you know it was some of her choices. I don't want to get into too much detail, but some of her life choices were what and other things. It was going to cause surgery like that to be very severe.

Speaker 1: 18:48

But as soon as she said that, my heart just went because I knew. I knew and I tried one more time to drop that that very serious. I actually had had dropped it quite seriously with the best friend and the husband and she passed away A few weeks ago, right after having this. She couldn't handle the surgery and I was like you know what good? What good does it do? As what that's kind of like that feeling is like what good does it do If it's? If I've never been like I couldn't do anything about 9-11, that morning I was telling people look, this is what's going to happen. And they're like you sound like a crazy person. Those buildings aren't going to come down and I'm like, I'm telling you that this is going to get much worse.

Speaker 2: 19:24

Right right.

Speaker 2: 19:25

Yeah, and so how do you You're giving them options and choices? Cynthia, that's the thing the same with me when I'm on the phone with them. Exactly what each person. This is where our burden is right. Like you say, we know exactly what the person should be doing because we see it. We see it in them, we see their past. I see their past, I see the choices that they're making and I see, based on the choices they're making, the direction that they're going in. Okay, and so we give them that information and it's up up to them then, because of free will, to make those choices, and it's very painful watching people making the wrong choices. But I put it like this this is how I deal with it.

Speaker 2: 20:11

Okay, I'm not religious, so when I mention biblical characters, it's about spirituality and it's about messages. It's not about religion. Jesus did not come down here to save us. Well, in a way I'll explain that to to show us who he was. He came down here to remind us who we were.

Speaker 2: 20:34

Ok, now think of this spiritual leader coming, coming down, looking at us and the choices we were making back then right, suffering all over the place, having horrible diseases, being killed by romans fighting with the romans, fighting with each other. All of this nonsense, right. And so think of the compassion that he has watching this, knowing, knowing and speaking to them and telling them the different choices that they can make, that they are connected to a higher source, they're better than what they think they are, that there's abundance out there, that you don't have to fight for it. You just have to ask the universal forces to help you with that. The God sources what he kept getting everybody realizing. You're connected with God, we all are, I am, you are, you can do these miracles, you can heal yourself. All of it. So think of them. And then, from that character on, think of Gandhi, you know, roaming around India saying you don't have to act like this, you don't have to fight with your brother, you don't have to go by the will of the British, you know you take care of yourself and you won't need them All of these choices. Because they knew, you know Martin Luther King Jr, they knew all of this and the burden of knowing that. But I find it as a gift of knowing that, because at least I have the. I'm giving them an option. Where they don't see an option, we're giving them an option, and so, yes, I will at the end of a day, if it was really heavy duty.

Speaker 2: 22:07

I find myself crying, I find. But I was a hospice social worker. I knew that. I did that. I helped over 500 people in their transitioning point and their caregivers Right, and so it was. I cried for them because of the suffering that they were going through because if they were on hospice they're not dying pleasantly from 20 years old all the way on up, you know, to 100.

Speaker 2: 22:37

And the compassion for the pain that everybody is feeling going through that okay, even though I knew that they would be okay on the other side, because I know that there is another side, we're going to continue living, we don't really die. But the hurt of the separation that humanness right. And so compassion, compassion, can make you feel that way. But I also do not believe in compassion fatigue because or compassion burnout. I you know, when I was in as a social worker, a hospital social worker, I actually taught a class on dealing with compassion burnout, which there is no such a thing.

Speaker 2: 23:20

And also now, recently I just heard spiritual burnout, that when you're on a spiritual path it could be so burdening and so disillusioning that it just burns you out and I'm like well then, you're doing it wrong. You're doing it wrong. Compassion is one of our greatest gifts. It's like love. It's a part of who we are. We're filled with it if you allow it. But if you've got your own issues, compassion fatigue is then real, because it's reminding you of your own pains, not the other person's pains. So as soon as you get to the burnout phase, then is something else going on. But I know what you're talking about, because it is burdening to know all of that, to see this universe, to see the earth and see what all these people are going through right now and knowing in our hearts that they don't have to be going through that.

Speaker 1: 24:14

Yeah, you know the choice that you know.

Speaker 2: 24:16

I another choice that you know, I found a way to.

Speaker 1: 24:18

It took me a long time. Um, because when you first have, you know, when you first have a major spiritual journey, you, you know, you go through these phases of, oh I should be, should I be a preacher, should I be, you know, and I'm just using that as a word.

Speaker 2: 24:29

But you know what?

Speaker 1: 24:30

kind of you know how should I channel this and excuse me. And it took me three, my three year, three years of of, uh, the spiritual, wow, real, real work, the real work, um, to get to a place where I realized that, that to drive that ability to see the truth into being a futurist so that I could share what I is going to happen to humanity and the way we can prevent it. But that that took me a long time because it wasn't, it wasn't on the menu.

Speaker 2: 25:01

No, it wasn't on the menu three years. Actually, you're incredible, because I fought it. I was. I'm much more obstinate, yet I'll agree that I am an obstinate Italian, new Yorker, and I was that way as a kid. You couldn't tell me what to do. So when I was being told that I'm going to be a spiritual teacher and have this psychic ability, I was like I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2: 25:25

I was an actor at the time. I wanted to become famous, I wanted an Oscar, I wanted a Tony, I wanted an Emmy. I did not want a psychic, fair ability. Okay, I wasn't going to be one of them. And I kept pushing it off and pushing it off, and pushing it off, and I'm talking about years. So I I got into it, even part time, because I couldn't help it. All right, all right, all right, already I'll do some of this. So I was doing it part time. I didn't want to do. I didn't know you can make a full-time career out of it. And then eventually and it was, I was, let's see in 2008 is what really changed everything for me.

Speaker 2: 26:03

Um, I was in an automobile accident and I couldn't do anything. I was a hospice social worker at the time. I couldn't do anything. I had brain stem damage, wow and I had double vision and I couldn't drive. And so, um, when you can't drive, you can't even be a social worker here in North Carolina, because there's a lot of outreach stuff and nobody would hire you without a license, a driver's license. So I couldn't drive, I couldn't do any of that and I'm like okay, so what am I supposed to do now? And it laid in front of me literally an email came in that I had never seen before. It was from hay house, louise hayes.

Speaker 2: 26:40

Oh, yeah yeah, right, and they have a lot of educational programs. Well, it was a weekend become a mover and shaker and all of a sudden something inside of me said okay, I'm not meant to be a social worker and do all of this work, I'm not meant to get into a corporate world and I'm having a really hard time using this properly. So I went to that for a weekend and it changed my entire career. Then, all of a sudden, I was getting requests for readings and then talks, and so it just kept building on top of each other as it was happening by itself. I never put out one ad, nothing, it just happened to me. So I realized, as soon as I surrendered the idea of not being a professional actor, that I am meant to be this and I'm gonna use all of my power. I even caused and I wanna share this of myself.

Speaker 2: 27:37

I have a brain tumor and it's wrapped around my spinal column. It's called the schwannoma. It's made of the nerves of the spinal cord. Wow, it's growing into the top, right into the top portion of my spinal column. If it grows any more than it already is, it can cut off any higher function my vision, my hearing, my ability to talk, my ability to do anything. Okay, so it's just hovering there.

Speaker 2: 28:09

I went to some of the best healers. There is a very famous school in Florida, the Barbara Brennan School of Reiki or healing, healing touch right Very well known around the world, very respected, and one of the teachers happens to be here in North Carolina. And I went to her and she's doing all of this feeling and army. And she says she gets to my throat area and she said whoa, I can't do anything about that, I can't help you. I said why? She said, said this is up to you. I said what's there? What am I blocking it? I she said you have to figure it out. I can't even tell you why it's there, but you have a severe blockage, energy blockage, and this is your will center, your will center, your fifth spiritual center cynthia, the will, the will that we have right.

Speaker 2: 28:58

And everything is about imposing your human will against your spiritual will, which is what I was doing. I created a tumor because I was getting all of this energy right. It's like having a short circuit. You've got all this electricity coming into the house and it's got no place to go, or you got a block there. It's going to cause something, could cause a fire oh yeah, no, I completely agree with that.

Speaker 1: 29:23

We, we often. I don't think all illness is is caused by us, but a lot of it is particularly chronic illness, isn't?

Speaker 2: 29:31

absolutely so. I know that I wasn't using my power. That's as soon as she said that I can't explain it. You have to figure it out. I went home knowing, knowing I know what it is, I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing and I'm raising all this energy. I was studying, you know, everything to do with the paranormal world. I studied, I went to education material, I went through everything that I could to understand what was happening to me and about the source and power and spirituality, right, but I wasn't doing anything with it not what I was supposed to be doing and it wasn't. Until I did, I said okay, oh, my gosh, okay, I got to give in to who I really am and all of a sudden, everything opened up. I just recently had another MRI taken of that just to check it. It's not grown at all, it's just sitting there not causing any issue at all. But I know this if I don't continue to use what I have, it will begin to grow again, because I'll be blocking and causing this energy block here again.

Speaker 1: 30:37

It always reminds me of an outlet that you burnt out yeah, exactly, and you too, right.

Speaker 2: 30:42

Don't you feel that you have to use what you've got? Now that you've opened up, you've allowed it to happen, you got to use it, don't you feel that?

Speaker 1: 30:51

oh yeah, when I in writing, I'm writing a book called a new American Dream and it's it shares a vision for the future, and when I first started it, I was being very kind of like, business-like about the approach to it. And then I realized that I needed to bring all of that futuristic and ability to see and be just very frank with people about you know what, what has happened, what's going to happen, and then it started to really flow. But you know it's, it's a new, it was. It took me a while and and just you know to to backtrack. I got called to to utilize my abilities to be my authentic self when I was a teenager and I had dude the year I turned 13,.

Speaker 1: 31:34

I thought about this once. I got trampled by a horse. I was in like five car accidents. I almost got killed like eight times. Like it was crazy. I had some an infection in my organs. It was so bad I almost died. Like it was crazy the amount of things that happened. And I ended up having a spirit animal session. Like it was just all these things. And my shaman moved in next door and started teaching me about herbs. Like it was just this nutty year and I was like, no, like, don't with the shaman thing. It sounds like I mean, my only representations of shamanism were from movies and tv and they were always the drunk village idiot right of course I was like no, and I couldn't decide.

Speaker 1: 32:15

Does it sound like a preacher or a drunk village idiot? But anyway, you know, and I had to get to that place where I realized that you know, a shaman, you know, is a person that helps the community heal by shining a light into the future and the potential and showing the way through their own experiences. And I was very pigeonholed about what that looked like. And, frankly, the industry does that to you. Oh, if you have any healing, well, we all have healing capabilities, we're all intuitive, we all have psychic abilities. But the world wants you to go. Go be a Reiki healer, you know, that kind of thing where you, just when you first get it, really get into it. And I was kind of like spending a while there, like going. You guys are confusing me and I had to find myself in that which. I'm sure you've been on that journey as well. Owning spirits you talk to spirits. I got to hear about that. That's something I've had some experience with, but I would not label myself a medium.

Speaker 2: 33:07

Yeah, Okay, okay, it happened as I was. Well, here's the thing about the more you open up the channel, all right, that connection, and really the connection, is from your conscious mind to your soul's mind. That's the connection, what it really is. Your soul is connected to all the other dimensions in the universe, not your human mind. So intuition comes from that internal source and people don't want to necessarily say that it's the soul's mind, but where is intuition in the human body? It's not in the body and where is it in the mind? What are you connected to? This intuition that you know all? It's connected to your soul. Your soul's mind is your super conscious mind that Carl Jung label, and Carl Jung was Sigmund Freud's best student. Okay, just so that everybody knows that.

Speaker 2: 34:01

So here I am now connected, and I started to give in and I'm working on all this studying, and so that channel got opened more and more and more and more and more, because I intentionally focused on opening it up. Now, part of opening up that channel is working on yourself. So my book, the Secret that's Holding you Back, is all about clearing and helping you to connect to the law of attraction and the higher forces so that you can create the life of your dreams, and the reason why you're not is because you really don't believe what you think you believe, and so my book gets to the deeper part of that. So that's what I cared about. I wanted to open. So you have to also take care of all of your own things that are in your, your psyche, closet right, to open up that channel.

Speaker 2: 34:47

So as I was doing that work as well as my studying and practicing the spiritual side of me, that kept opening up, opening up, opening up. So at first it was just the psychic part. I also. Actually I started out as a healer and a dream interpreter because my major guide was Joseph from Canaan, which I just blew me away hearing that Joseph from Canaan is Joseph and the amazing technical dream coach Joseph. They made a musical of him. So here's hysterical. It figures that, me being an actor, I was a professional actor, singer and dancer and I was in all musicals because that's what my focus was, including the movie Grease, by the way. I had to throw that in, you know, just drop that in there.

Speaker 2: 35:30

I love that Right, right. And so here I am and my major guide is Joseph, who they made a musical of Right. So I was a dream interpreter in the beginning and I also healed. Just by touching people I would get, I would massage them and I go oh my God, your hands are so hot. Oh gosh, you just took away that pain that I had for years. My friend, he said I took away an injury in his knee and he started to believe and he wanted to know everything that I was learning. That's how it started.

Speaker 2: 35:58

Then things were coming to me, there was a psychic part coming in. And then, a few years down the road, just a couple of years, all of a sudden, when I was working with people, I would see a deceased loved one, a mother, a grandmother, a spouse, a best friend, a best friend, and I'm like you know, all of a sudden I'm like what is this? And I'm seeing in my mind's eye and also outside of myself. So that's the subjective is when you see spirit in your mind's eye, internally, and objective is when you actually see, like you're looking at a person and you can see a spirit right next to a person. That's objective viewing. Okay, so I was getting both all of a sudden, and so as soon as I accepted that that started to develop even more so. So I became a medium. I was able to actually call in if asked to speak to a spirit, um, or they were coming to me when somebody was there, or if I was doing a group gallery reading, they, they would come to me, right. So that's how the spiritual mediumship part developed. Then all of a sudden one day a friend calls me up and says listen, you're really great at what you're doing. So I want to know if you'd be interested in something.

Speaker 2: 37:09

There was a famous article done about war dogs, the military, and it's actually they train them over here in Fayetteville, where I live in North Carolina, these dogs that they would take into wherever they were going. The soldiers would take them and they would teach the dogs how to smell out landmines, attacking, all of that, all of that danger, any kind of thing. They would be training those dogs. Well, at first, when they took these dogs over there and the mission was done, they would just leave the dogs there, not with anybody, just they would just let them go. When the public heard about that, the Americans heard about that, there was a big uproar. I remember this, you remember right. So the government changed their policy and said okay, so instead of letting the dogs go, we'll debrief the dogs, detrain them and we'll give them either to the handler, if they want them, or bring them back to the United States and put them up for adoption for anybody, okay?

Speaker 2: 38:13

So there was this famous story of this handler. He was young, he was in his early twenties and he first took the dog. This is when the program just began and he had his first mission in Afghanistan. And what happened was it was a group of them, a group of soldiers, and he was the lead with the dog, and they were going through an area Right and there was a ravine with a bridge over it. Well, they wouldn't go over the bridge, obviously, because that could make them targets. So they were going to go through the ravine. The ravine was very low, ok, so the handler sends the war dog through to sniff out any landmine. Handler sends the war dog through to sniff out any landmine. Well, it was a very windy day and the dog went right through and didn't smell or didn't indicate anything, and then the handler goes next. And the handler went in and stepped on a landmine that the dog did not find and it killed him.

Speaker 2: 39:09

Okay, so this dog now had nobody to go to except the parents, and the mother wanted the dog. So there was a whole story done about them bringing this dog to the mother. Well, somehow my friend got information about that and called me up and asked me would I be willing to try to connect to the dog? To connect to the dog, and this was the first time that I said, all right, let me try. Well, it turned out to make a long story short. It was so profound and prophetic and I got so much information that not only did I get the dog, I got the handler, I got this.

Speaker 2: 39:46

Amen. So we now will go into California because that's where the mom and his brothers lived and the father. That's where the mom and his brothers lived and the father, and so I was going to. We were going to do a whole filming of this so that people could see this, and I sent a recording to the mother. She was skeptical about the whole thing until she heard my recording and then said oh my God, he is spot on about everything. Ok, let's do this.

Speaker 2: 40:08

Well, somehow even England heard about this, and so the TV network and the TV show came in and filmed this entire thing. The whole thing was filmed and shown on TV in England as well, and so I communicated with the war dog and the sun and it was the most amazing experience for me. So that was the first time I communicated with animals. So I put on my website that I communicate with animals and all of a sudden I was getting phone calls. I got a phone call just locally from a woman who's jackass a donkey. I mean, I've done readings for some, I've met jackasses before, but this was a real jackass.

Speaker 2: 40:47

And he was sick. No, she was female and she was always sick and the vets couldn't figure out anything. And I went and I spoke with the donkey and found out that it had acid reflux and oh my god, that's so funny and then I even spoke to coco the gorilla, who was the sign language speaking.

Speaker 1: 41:05

Yeah, yeah, no, exactly, you're talking about brilliant. Didn't coco communicate that one thing one time?

Speaker 2: 41:10

that was such a serious message about humanity, like well, it was the message that coco communicator was really funny because I spoke to coco before they recorded that. Right, coco said to me that humans are stupid okay yeah, I remember this now right and they and they are look what happened with the coronavirus.

Speaker 2: 41:34

Yeah, exactly. And he said when a flower dies, the earth dies. When a bunny dies, the earth dies. When Coco dies, the earth dies, but when humans die, the earth doesn't die, because humans don't come from the earth, they come from the sky. So he was trying to, she was trying to tell us that we're not, we did not evolve from this planet, that we came to this planet no, I'm glad you brought this up because, for the listeners before we started filming, vincent and we're talking and he mentioned UFOs.

Speaker 1: 42:13

Now I have some conflicting thoughts about this.

Speaker 2: 42:17

Go right ahead. I want to hear that. I want to hear that.

Speaker 1: 42:20

Yeah, I've had visions of Egypt since I was very young Too young, I mean. I'm old enough that TV didn't have Egyptian. Like it wasn't something I was exposed to until I was probably a little bit older, but at that point I didn't even know what I was doing. I was meditating in a Zen position. I had visions of Egypt. So a lot of strange experiences.

Speaker 1: 42:41

And my mother used to joke with me that I was made of stardust and I used to wonder if I was an alien. I'm like, okay, some of the things that have happened to me are just too weird. So I've got that on the one hand, but the intellectual side of me, um, I cannot find evidence. Uh, I know, I can imagine if we all came here from outer space and that's how humanity, like I can, I could, that I can actually like kind of get get behind. But this idea that there's alien life that comes and hangs out here on earth and we somehow never get proof of it, I just I call bullshit on that and whenever I see we are getting proof of it, though oh see, this is, this is the proof is always vague.

Speaker 2: 43:22

No, it's not anymore, not anymore. There is so much proof and the government has finally put out all the proof, but here here's the what you got to understand this whole, the whole thing. Let me just I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 43:33

It always seems to be conveniently timed with with defense budgets no, not this one.

Speaker 2: 43:39

This isn't has anything to do with that, because I told you I was going to push back themselves about that because they're all right.

Speaker 2: 43:46

I was just at the largest ufo conference in the world, okay, and we had experts there from the government, the cia and all of them, and, and they've hidden all of this information because they didn't think we could handle anything, just like any leaders in any power protect us. The churches did that, religion did that. Look at the Kabbalah. The Kabbalah was not even released to the general Jewish population because they didn't think they could handle it, so that was hidden until it was discovered. So all of this information is always hidden from us because they think we're children who can't deal with it. Okay, so, beyond that, besides that, that's not what's important. Okay, when Coco said we came from the sky, it didn't mean that we are aliens. What he was talking about is that we incarnated here, we came down and then became physical. We did that ourselves, okay, however, we did not come down here in an advanced state. We did not develop ourselves in advanced state. There is proof, because if you go to even 23andme, you will see and do a DNA testing. They have two different DNA strands that they are able to link you to. Okay, and here's what happened we came down and we were very unadvanced Well before we came down.

Speaker 2: 45:05

The story is, we were all created at the same time. You can agree to that, because we are spiritual beings. We understand we are this created, this source, this God, this power, this intelligence, whatever we want to call it. The way it created us was by taking a piece of itself and dividing it into us. So here we are Now. We're all spiritual beings, but we don't get a chance to see our own life. We don't get a chance to see our own power because we're all together at home, just like children are born and they're raised in a household and they don't get to really discover themselves until when, until they leave the household. So in order to leave our oneness area, the universes were created, all universes at the same time, not just this one.

Speaker 2: 45:51

So, say, there's 12 universes. I'm just putting a number out there. Now. Each soul had the option of where they wanted to go and play. Okay, maybe Disneyland is over here and maybe Animal Kingdom is over here. So they all had a choice of where they wanted to go and visit. Okay, had a choice of where they wanted to go and visit. Okay. So once they went to those universes, they then became part of those universes and then the advancing started, their experiences started, and so aliens are our brothers and sisters that we were originally created from. And, by the way, there was no gender at that time, it was just souls, right Androgynous beings. But they're brothers and sisters, but they're, in those different universes, advanced faster than us. We were slow in our process of advancing, so what?

Speaker 2: 46:52

they surprised me to be surprised by that. So, yes, they came down to help us advance. A matter of fact, what they did is they took the original DNA that we created and they spliced it. Spliced it with a higher DNA section that is scientifically shown. There is evidence of that. Okay, because there's two different DNA strands the DNA strands from Neanderthals and the DNA strands from modern man, and you can be told that you have part of each. I did that and some of my ancestry comes from the Neanderthal, and if you met the genocide of the family, you would understand why they said that. Okay.

Speaker 2: 47:38

So so now here we are, and they are. We're so slow in our advancing. They came down. Egypt is all about them being here and helping us evolve, helping us grow. Now we're, we're continuing and now we keep coming back to this planet, but we're still slow. And now diseases are killing us instead of us being able to heal them. They kept coming back and the abductions are only to gather human DNA so that they can figure out how to adjust it, that we can now heal ourselves from these cancers, heal ourselves and to also preserve the human DNA. This is the body we want to keep coming back into. For some strange reason. We could have been changing that all along the way and we hadn't.

Speaker 2: 48:31

They did. They don't eat food the way we eat food. They drink it because they don't need to grow anything the way they do it. They just do it for nutrition purposes. Then they use their brains more, which is why their heads are so much bigger. They became nocturnal. Why can't they see at night? That's not evolutionarily good, so they changed it so that they can see both during the day and at night. That's why they have those big eyes. Now body fat everybody is dying of heart disease and and fat and cholesterol and all that nonsense because of the food and the way that they eat their natural food and drink it. They don't have body fat. That's why you see them so thin and so, so, so skinny. If you don't, you don't ever see. I find it interesting. There is no pictures of obese aliens coming here.

Speaker 1: 49:24

You know what I mean big fat ones, 400 pounds they're always tall and they're always thin, with big heads and big eyes right, and you actually can see the evolutionary process with the, the, the species, all right.

Speaker 2: 49:38

Palladians all right. People have seen palladians. Palladians look like swedes, you know, with the long blonde hair, blue, absolutely gorgeous, right, but they're advanced. Well, they are the next level of advancement from us and then you can actually see, through the species, the evolutionary process, from the lowest, which is us, to the highest, which is them, and that's all. They are our brothers and sisters. Eventually, all of the universes will be gone and we will be back in that oneness together.

Speaker 2: 50:20

I had, as a matter of fact, when I first started this process and I was communicating with spirits, I had an alien spirit introduce itself to me that she was here to take care of my health, which was really interesting, might help, because I was a smoker at the time and she was trying to get me to stop smoking because she was telling me that I'm getting injury in my lungs. Well, of course, I didn't follow her, and that was over 40 years ago, and I just found out recently, because of my smoking, I have mild COPD damage in my lung and in the lung that she pointed out my left lung. So she tried to stop that back then, and she introduced herself. Her name was Kaleig. She introduced herself as coming from another planet.

Speaker 2: 51:04

So once we get to the spirit realm, we're really all together. They die too. They go to the spirit realm. We go to the spirit realm, the same area that we were created in. So we're all together. So anybody can help anybody. A shaman monk can come in to help us here. Right, an alien spirit can come in to help us here. But the stories that you hear now, that's what causes the skepticism, because they're ridiculous. There are no reptilians here, aliens that had sex with reptiles here, for god's sakes, oh my god it's just like a lot.

Speaker 1: 51:39

They're like a reptilian blood and I'm like I know I go.

Speaker 2: 51:42

My god, give me a break. I. Can you imagine a great this advanced being is here and has sex with an alligator? I don't think so, and albert einstein believed in aliens. He knew that they were here, but he also.

Speaker 1: 51:55

I think it would be the height of arrogance to assume that we're alone in the universe exactly. But when I pay attention to what I see in terms energetically and it's not to disagree with you, it's just different experiences. My energetic experience on earth speaks to potential, ancient, um uh, things that we don't understand and we don't have records of um, but I do not sense anything in recent time, just me personally, and that and that's my, my personal experience. It's not a judgment of anybody else. I do have a friend experiences.

Speaker 2: 52:29

We all are experiencing new things and I have a friend who is the most documented now in the us, a gentleman who has contact with a matter of fact, they even had cameras. I've been with him. He's a good friend of mine. Now his whole family is. He actually brings in and can call upon spirit orbs, and the spirit orbs are and they can morph because, as in egypt, what they learned is to be able to transfigure themselves into light beings and leave the earth. That's what the mayans did, that's what jesus did jesus.

Speaker 1: 53:04

It's christ consciousness.

Speaker 2: 53:06

Yeah, exactly, it's the cleaning of the karma and just absolutely turned himself, his body and everything went into a light force and just left. That's what he did and that's what they did back in Egypt, that they were trying to teach us. So now my friend is seeing those light orbs because all aliens, they're advanced enough to be able to do that. So they come in as a light orb, a beautiful orb, that's a fiery orb from the sky and some of them have even transfigured themselves into that alien figure and he has video of it. And this you want to go to? A show beyond skinwalker rants is a television show.

Speaker 2: 53:42

go to yeah, yeah, yeah go to episode eight on the history channel and you will see them proving my friend right. I mean, he was so ostracized but the CIA, fbi and the Vatican are working with him now because they want to find out more about this right and side. But I have seen it personally. When you see it personally, then you begin to believe right, even though believing is seeing. Oh yeah, I've seen spirits.

Speaker 1: 54:10

I've talked to spirits in my lifetime, absolutely but I'm telling you, that's all they are.

Speaker 2: 54:14

But I've never had any.

Speaker 1: 54:15

I've never had any aliens pop in for it to say hi, and that's just a. I'm a big believer in occam's razor. The most obvious answer is the is usually the correct one. So for me, when I see the videos, uh, showing you know, spaceships and things coming down, I'm like I'm sorry, but that's technology from another country, or technology that we're we're testing or we got.

Speaker 2: 54:37

You could think that, yes, absolutely, except for the way they move and the way that they oh I I think that's honestly I actually to me.

Speaker 1: 54:47

When I saw the movement it actually reminded me of the, the. I immediately thought of the deep uhiana Trench and the way the animals moved down there. It reminded me of that. So it was almost like, anyway, a guy could keep. We're like 30. Vincent and I are having so much fun.

Speaker 2: 55:03

It's twice as long as my normal shows. Oh, wow, wow, we put it in two parts, I know.

Speaker 1: 55:09

I know, I know Right, wow, wow, we're putting in two parts then put it in.

Speaker 2: 55:12

I know, I know, I know right, uh, gosh, this is, I'll have to have you back on the show again, so we can talk some more about this yeah, definitely, because I want to compare them also to spirits and ghosts that are caught here, right.

Speaker 2: 55:23

Though not everybody sees those, they do exist, right. So we have a certain amount of of. Well, it's all based on faith and belief that we even think that this is a spirit that you see or anything like that. So there really isn't a lot of evidence to anything that is in that paranormal spiritual realm, and I think that's what faith and belief is, and we will write to choose to whether you want to believe in something like that. But but we are getting more information now because we need so much help here. That's the whole point of this.

Speaker 1: 55:54

Yeah, we do, we do. We're going through a massive transformation. It's an exciting time to be alive, vincent. I could keep talking to you all day.

Speaker 2: 56:01

I know, really I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 56:03

If our listeners wanted to find your information, where would they go?

Speaker 2: 56:13

If they go to vincent jennacom and that's with a g-e-n-n-acom, they can see everything that I'm doing, including a new television show and series on ethereal tv that's coming out, that's going to be premiering real soon. That's a streaming network that's going to be on the roku and also on fire stick and it'll be on Apple real soon so that you can see these television shows. I'm on there. My show is called Living your Soul's Purpose, and so you can find me there, connect with me, write to me, have readings with me all through my website, so that's all they need to go to VincentJennercom and get my book, the Secrets that's Holding you Back, so that it Transformed your Life Forever. That's on Amazon and audio at Audible as well.

Speaker 1: 56:55

Amazing. Well, you guys, thank you so much for listening to another episode of Citizen Journalist. If you're not already subscribed, come on, get on it. It's intelligent listening, it's fun, and gosh knows we need more of that. We need intelligent media here in America.

Speaker 1: 57:15

And thank you so much for all your support for all of my projects. I've got a new issue of Soul Tech coming out. I've got an event on July 2nd for my new book, A New American Dream, which hit number one. If you've not already learned about A New American Dream, go check it out on Amazon. It's an e-book right now because it's not coming out for a few more months, but when it does finally come out it'll be available in all formats and, of course, you can check out my other books unleash the Empress and memory mansion there and, of course, visit my website, shaman ISIScom and soul tech foundationorg. So anyway, you guys have an amazing week and we'll be back soon enough with more. And thank you, Vincent, so much for your precious time and your fabulous energy.

Speaker 2: 57:56

No. Thank you for having me, cynthia. It is a wonderful pleasure for me to be able to share my message with you and your listeners.

Speaker 1: 58:03

I love it. I love it. I'll talk to you soon, vincent Bye you guys Bye-bye.